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Dec 12, 2012 3:00am PST
of the working man's life. >> they seem to be doing that in some states. >> not allowing union bosses to compel them to write checks from their paychecks. where they don't belong. >> front page of all the papers. controversial right-to-work measures will soon be the law of the land in michigan. republican governor rick snider signed the law despite wide protests at the capitol. the law will make it illegal for a union employee to pay union dues as a condition of their employment. >> let's explain that. just for half a second. then we'll go on. right to work, what does it mean? people ask me, what does it mean? it means unions can force somebody to pay them if they want to get a job in the state of michigan. >> well, what it means is, if you get a job, the union extracts money from your paycheck for the dues for union dues. >> well, yeah. >> automatically. >> automatically. >> you've got no choice. oh, you want to work here? well, you've got to pay us. >> right. >> what if i don't want to pay you? what if i don't want to support the candidates you support? what if they're the antithesis of my va
MSNBC
Dec 11, 2012 10:00am PST
mentioned. the union workers here believe that this is an attempt by governor snyder and republicans to break the back of the union and that a lot of nonmembers are going to actually benefit from generations much hard work that these union members have put in overtime, andrea. >> ron mott right in the middle of all of it out there in lansing, and joining me now from inside the statehouse, of course, the michigan governor rick snyder. governor snyder, thank you very much for joining us. tell me why now and why this issue, why take this on? this is not what you campaigned on. >> no. i appreciate that, andrea. it really goes back to last summertime. the labor movement, labor leaders were pushing forward something called proposal 2. they were doing signatures to put on it the ballot, which would have been a massive overreach into michigan's constitution regarding collective bargaining. i believe in collective bargaining, but this was way over the top, and i asked him not to go forward, and the reasons i said is you are going to start a very divisive discussion regarding collective bargai
MSNBC
Dec 7, 2012 1:00am PST
the rights of unions. in fact, it was exactly that kind of scene michigan governor rick snyder, a republican, had said he wanted to avoid. in february, governor snyder looked at those other midwestern states with republican governors and workers protesting in the state capital and decided he did not want that thing in michigan, not in his historically very strong union state. governor snyder said, "you look at now that they've had those things happen, do they have a productive environment to solve problems? not necessarily. they're still overcoming the divisiveness, the hard feelings from all of that." at the time reporters wanted to know whether rick snyder would support what is known as a right to work law. the idea of right to work is simple. under a right to work law, employees of a union shop don't have to pay union dues. the employees get the benefit of the union, the higher wages and better health care, all of that, but they do not have to pay for it. why pay money if you can have something for free? for unions, the results of this are close to catastrophic which is why republicans an
MSNBC
Dec 10, 2012 3:00pm PST
an extreme attack on core democratic policies. they are now pushing a far right agenda to go take down union rights and women's rights. we've seen this in wisconsin and ohio and virginia. now, it's in michigan. president obama went to an au auto-plan where he ripped the gop plan and crippled the state's labor unions. >> what we shouldn't be doing is taking away your rights to bargain for better wages. [ applause ] >> you know, these so called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics, they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. you only have to look to michigan where workers were instrumental in reviving the auto industry to see how unions have helped build not just the stronger middle class, but a stronger america. >> the president is right. it's not about economics. it is about politics. the state's republican governor, rick snyder, says he'll sign the right to work bill into law. even though he opposed this kind of anti-union push earlier this year. >> right to work is an issue that's a very dev
MSNBC
Dec 11, 2012 8:00am PST
swarched the state capital. union supporters are rallying around the capital building itself in lansing as gop lawmakers from both state houses vote on a bill that would significantly weaken union rights in a state considered one of the cradles of the labor movement. the law prohibits workers from being required to pay union dues as a condition of employment. republican governor schneider saying that he'll sign that bill right away making michigan the 24th state with the right to work. >>> yesterday president obama joined the chorus of voices condemning this move. >> by the way, what we shouldn't do, i just got to say this, what we shouldn't be doing is taking away your right to bargain for better wages. giving you the right to work for less money. >> nbc is live from lansing, michigan, and from detroit i'm joined by michigan democratic congressman gary peters. ron, i'm going to start with you. describe the scene for us there and what's at stake. >> reporter: good day to you. it just started snowing within the past few minutes. these folks are braving very cold temperatures here but the
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 8:00am PST
to work is wrong! >>> our other story developing in michigan today, where labor unions are considering a large scale counter offensive. the home of the uaw is now the first blue right to work state after a pair of bills were signed into law by governor rick snyder who appeared on msnbc's "morning joe" today. >> i believe this is pro-worker. because the way i view it is workers now have freedom to choose. this does not deal with organizing at all. this does not deal with collective bargaining at all. this has nothing to do with the relationship between an employer and a union. this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> let's dig in right now. >> good ideas get debated and bad ones get rammed through with police protection in a lame duck legislature. but i will say this, mr. speaker. this fight is not over. >> we are going to get to michigan in a moment. first we want to bring in today's political power panel and dig in on the big topics of the day. msnbc contributor joy ann reid, also managing editor for the grio. msnbc contributor ari melber, correspondent for the na
MSNBC
Dec 7, 2012 8:00pm PST
brothers money is hard at work in michigan. where union-busting republicans are ramming right to work into law. we'll go to lansing, michigan, for the latest. >>> the push to pass the violence against women act is on. but fox news just doesn't get it. >> i think it skirts the issue that women are victims of violence all the time. >> should have guns. >> well, or make better decisions. >>> and the supreme court announced today they will begin hearing cases on gay marriage. tonight professor of constitutional law jonathan turley on this historic civil rights battle. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 3:00pm PST
office. >>> welcome back. now, you and i may think the big story in the michigan union fight is that more than 12,000 people turned out in the freezing cold to peacefully prote protest the republican powergram taking away worker's rights. but the folks over at fox news have a different version. to them, the real story is that one guy took a swing at another guy. here's the video they've had on a loop in the last 24 hours. aparentally, showing a protest to hitting a man who turned out to be a fox news contributor. >> now, there is no excuse for violence. but there are some important things to know about this. one, the video has been edited and we don't know exactly what happened before the incident. two, it happened at a tent set up by the coke brothers, americans for prosperity. why did an anti-union group set up a tent in the middle of a pro-union rally? we don't know. but we do know that over on fox news they went crazy using this to cover up the real story. >> now, you can see on the screen left is a fox news contributor. and he was in lansing today. he was viciously assaulted by a uni
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 3:00pm PST
that strips union power. president obama just responded to this. we're live in michigan tonight. >>> and it's a political battle for the ages. we'll tell you why first lady michelle obama and former president bill clinton are going head to head. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >>> i just spotted mitt romney at costco again. go ahead and return that oval rug you ordered. [ male announcer ] now's the perfect time to buy an adjustable version of the most highly recommended bed in america. the tempur-pedic ergo system. treat yourself to the ultimate sleep experience and save up to $400 during the tempur ergo savings event. plus visit tempurpedic.com for full details on our 0% apr financing with up to five years to pay. don't wait. five-year special financing ends december 10th. visit tempurpedic.com now. tempur-pedic. the most highly recommended bed in america. >>> have you joined it the "politicsnation" conversation on facebook yet? we hope you will. today everyone was speculating about what jim demint's resignation means with the tea party. he says they are definitely weak tea. sus
MSNBC
Dec 10, 2012 2:00pm PST
amendment defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman. we aflawed the citizens of the majority of states which have enshrined in their constitutions the traditional concept of marriage, and we support the campaigns under way in several other states to do so. and take a look at what the republican candidate mitt romney said back in may about his opposition to not only gay marriage, but even civil unions. let's watch. >> i think people have differing views on marriage, and i respect people's different views. when i served as governor of my state, this issue arose, same-sex marriage and civil union. i pointed out that i'm in favor of traditional marriage between a man and a woman and i don't favor civil union or gay marriage. >> clark, your party is so far right on this issue, they're not going to do anything about doma, they want to put it in the constitution you can never have a same-sex marriage. >> it's not going to happen. >> why are they putting it in the platform? >> that is a problem. this is what we fought against this summer in tampa. what did happen in that committee in
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 10:00am PST
on the street. far different scene yesterday, of course, a lot of union workers very upset about not just this legislation that's going to wipe out a 77-year-old requirement that workers be forced to pay union dues as a condition of employment, they are upset also about how this was jammed through the legislature. this was passed in both bodies in four days time and signed by the governor last night. what the advocates of this legislation say is union shops and unions no longer can just depend on fattening up their membership roles by default, they actually have to go out and sell themselves, sell their benefits to the workforce in order to earn those memberships. so we'll see how this all changes. the law will go into effect some time in late march or early april. we don't know what recourse they have. we know they can't challenge this at the ballot box. i asked him why this was rushed through so quickly. he says this was never part of his agenda but organized labor tried to force the issue by putting a constitutional amendment really to enshrine collective bargaining in the state's cons
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 6:00am PST
this concert. >> fantastic. >> i learned that the governor honestly believes he is helping unions with the right to work. they need a value proposition. >> now, now, now. he is not here to defend himself. >> what are did you learn? >> i learned about lindsay. the biggest challenge in and the most wonderful thing you can do. congratulations. if it's way too early, what time is it? >> it's time for chuck todd and "the daily rundown." >> as the fiscal cliff pressure goes on, whether john boehner has the votes to get a deal through. they have ads aimed at house republicans. one of boehner's colleagues is not exactly rejecting the idea of challenging him with a gavel. we will dig into that. overseas, north korea fires off another rocket. we will have the latest on what the pentagon and the world is saying about this closed off country's capability to launch a long range rweapon. plus 65 years of history making by our friends at "meet the press." the longest running television show. on the planet. from a deep dive also into the kennedy legacy and the man who laid the foundation for a wh
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 1:00pm PST
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MSNBC
Dec 10, 2012 10:00am PST
of staff who prided over the last round of budget negotiations. in the meantime, the anti-union fight, which is michigan. the heart and soul of the labor movement. after saying it was their best prank ever, are these crocodile tears? the aussie dj's are all apologies now that the nurse has tragically committed suicide. >> i mean, personally i'm -- >> the thought that we may have played a part in that is gut wrenching. >> and speaking of tears, "saturday night live" spoofed the fiscal cliff talks this week in that opening skit. president obama says he is giving in to republicans to save boehner face. >> you know what, republicans, you win, okay? you get what you want, but you lee had man alone. you leave this poor, orange man alone. you okay? >> yeah. >> i can't hear you. >> yes, yes. >> there he is. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. well, there they were side-by-side, and for real they were in the white house this weekend. president obama taking his message of middle class tax cuts and tax increases for the rich to detroit today. just as michigan is facing a big vot
MSNBC
Dec 11, 2012 1:00pm PST
. >> big labor is furious. >> i actually don't view this as anti-union. ♪ >> not only did our commander in chief sit through this anti-american performance, he was caught on camera shaking his hand. >> why would he even be in the same room with this guy? that to me is scary. ♪ it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪ >>> it is crunch time here in washington. exactly three weeks left to cut a deal before automatic tax increases and spending cuts will send the economy over the fiscal cliff, and around the capitol there's largely the sound of silence as the white house and congress try to work out a deal behind closed doors. the president has no public events on his schedule. and all through the house, not a creature was stirring except, that is, for john boehner, who emerged to gavel the house into session this afternoon after a week's recess with his trademark holiday cheer. >> washington has a spending problem. now, the president doesn't agree with our approach. he's got an obligation to put forward a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress because right now the american
FOX News
Dec 8, 2012 8:00pm PST
be able to choose to support a union and choose not to. >> that's big news, potentially for economically in michigan, and means a lot more companies might be willing to locate in michigan. and remember, if you have your own hit or miss, please send it to us at jer@foxnews.com and follow us on twitter@jer on fnc. that's it for the show and thanks to my ponl and all of you for watching, i'm paul gigot, we hope to see you here next week. >> on fox news watch. >> coach ryan,'s got a problem. he has three quarterbacks. the same problem the republicans are having. who is the quarterback, mr. president. >> the quarterback on the democratic side is the president of the united states. he keeps throwing interceptions and we're moving backwards and backward and backward. >> jon: congress doing battle over the budget. republicans say they want to cut government spending and democrats say they want to do all they can to push the president's plan, but is his plan good for the country or just good for him? and do the media know the difference? >> a vast majority of our major media in this country is o
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 7:00pm PST
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MSNBC
Dec 10, 2012 9:00am PST
as early as tomorrow. what is the president owe labor unions at this point? you know, off the election, off of a win in michigan? how hard does he need to push this? >> i don't think he -- he is thinking he owes them a ton, but this is an threat to labor. this is a violent attack on the right to organize. it's much more radical than what was attempted in wisconsin or ohio. labor is flipping out, understandably so, and i think they're trying to stop snyder who may have wandered into a fight that is more extreme than he ever intended to. >> obama ultimately does -- i mean, if this is an easy way to keep your base close, he needs his base close if is he going to cut some sort of deal that are going to be unhappy with some part of ultimately. >> and also, if is he going to be continuing this campaign style strategy of taking his priorities out to the american public using grass rights networks to get support for them, whether that's immigration reform or maybe energy reform. he has to keep some out of the progressive network intact. the election and recent polling shows that the tide of public
FOX News
Dec 5, 2012 3:00am PST
teaching her children. >> gretchen: the american federation of teacher's union is proposing a bar exam to weed out bad apples. will it work or just tryingo cover up other stuff. a elderly teacher resigned from the union years ago in florida. good morning. >> gretchen: why did you resign from the union? >> i left the union because i saw no purpose in belonging to it and i was broke, i was a teacher and i needed money. >> steve: and you live in florida, you don't have to belong to the union. >> exactly. >> steve: what do you make of the proposal by the american federation of teachers. they will have a high standard like a bar exam for teachers because it is hard to be a lawyer and hard to become a teacher, right? >> right. [laughing] i don't buy it. every state already has in place certification tests that people take. i believe that their intention to make the standards more rigorous. i fully support and i think you node the best of the best teaching the students. but at the same time. you continue to demand higher and higher quality and somebody has to pay for it. >> gretchen: don't yo
MSNBC
Dec 11, 2012 3:00am PST
to push through this right to work. >> this is interesting actually. michigan is a heavily unionized state so why would it be going right to work. there's enormous downward pressure on wages on american companies around the world that can make things cheaper elsewhere than here and our wages are uncompetitive in a lot of ways. in effect what people in michigan have to decide, do you want fewer jobs at higher wages or lower jomore jobs at lower w they have decided they want more jobs. >> you look at michigan and detroit, that's a pretty easy answer. >> the unemployment rate. >> the unemployment rate is horrible. detroit in 1960, i think, was one of the wealth nest city if not the wealthiest city in america and now one of the poorest. >> the fourth largest. >> this is a done deal, going through the house today, to a republican governor and says he will sign it. >> it's symbolic of two things, one, the politics of it all, what we've seen in wisconsin and elsewhere and the unpopularity of unions these days and secondly an economic phenomenon, basically a statement we want jobs and we're willin
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 2:00am PST
the 24th state in america with a right-to-work law. despite protests of angry union supporters, state lawmakers passed the legislation. this means both private and public workers do not have to pay union fees. and republican governor rick snyder quickly signed the bills, calling them "pro worker" and "pro michigan," but opponents say the move weakens organized labor and will mean lower wages. >>> last night on "politics nation," democratic congressman gary peters of michigan told the reverend al sharpton that governor snyder did an about face on this issue. take a listen. >> it is particularly hard to explain, because we had a governor who repeatedly said that this was not on his agenda, this would be very divisive for our state. he continually said that for a couple years, and then immediately after the election had a really sharp about-face and then just jammed it through without, as you mentioned, without any hearings or public input. i was able to meet with him with other members of the congressional delegation. he sat and listened to us, but he never really responded, and when he
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 4:00pm PST
that 25% of republicans want their state to secede from the union. do you believe this number? i am deeply convinced it's mainly in the south. and by the way, another 19% say they aren't so sure about secession. are these people meatheads or what? 44% of the republican party either does or might go along with ses secession. what do you want to bet these are the same people who say president obama is a muslim. just guessing. >>> he's outspoken, tough, irreverent, biting, funny, and very, very smart. he'll be insufferable now. barney frank entered congress at the start of the reagan revolution. he's leaving it as it begins to crumble, some say. the man from massachusetts joins us tonight. >>> finally, consider yourself warned, barack obama is a socialist leading the country to communism. that's the latest from the sage of wasilla, sarah palin. that's what she's still saying. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on w
MSNBC
Dec 7, 2012 10:00pm PST
is only a legal union between one man and one woman. the defense of marriage act bars the federal government from recognizing the validity of same-sex marriages in states where they are legal under state law. nine states -- connecticut, iowa, maine, maryland, massachusetts, new hampshire, new york, vermont, and washington allow same-sex marriage or soon will. so does washington, d.c. record lines are expected for those wanting a first come, first serve seat during the historic supreme court proceedings. as nbc's pete williams puts it, today's move by the supreme court could result in the roe v. wade of guy rights. joining me now is political strategist steve elmendorf and chris geithner, senior political reporter for buzz feed. steve, i want to go to you first on this. there has been a lot of discussion and a lot of back and forth whether it's a good thing for marriage equality for the supreme court to take up these issues. some folks think better to leave it at the state level. there has been a lot of progress there. are you bullish or bearish on this? >> i'm bullish. i think the
MSNBC
Dec 10, 2012 8:00am PST
when he announced last week he'd sign a bill requiring workers to financially support unions. it could happen tomorrow. moments ago you and your michigan colleagues gave a news conference on this. are you concerned this is going to turn into another messy situation similar to what we saw play out in wisconsin last year? >> here's what i'm concerned about with right to work. is that, number one, it'll end up cutting wages and benefits for middle-income workers who really need the money right now. they're still struggling with under water mortgages, with their kids facing all the student loan debt that i've been fighting to reduce, and also our middle-income families, when they have enough money to take care of themselves, spending that money actually stimulates the economy. so right to work is wrong. everyone who benefits from union representation should at least pay their fair share for that. >> sir, thanks so much. democratic congressman from michigan, hansen clarke. >>> i want to pass long again, watch live coverage of the president's remarks in detroit later today. the president exp
Current
Dec 7, 2012 6:00am PST
and medicaid benefits. >> it stars two senator and two republican reps. cnn reports the labor unions are spending more than a half of million dollars on this round of spots. we're back with more steph after the break. stay with us. ♪ going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: okay. and as we mentioned, unemployment numbers. hello! [ ♪ patriotic music ♪ ] >> stephanie: the lowest in four years. >> wow! >> stephanie: it has dropped to 7.7%. >> you're welcome america, i did that. >> no, you didn't. >> stephanie: right. [ applause ] >> stephanie: which is twice of what was expected. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stepha
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Dec 5, 2012 10:00am PST
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MSNBC
Dec 10, 2012 1:00pm PST
union. i'm not going to sit and listen to you all and say republicans aren't willing to spend money on education. >> i didn't say -- >> you said that -- >> what i said was there has to be meaningful solutions. parent/teacher and student partnerships. >> i agree with that. >> that's what i mean. >> let's have an intervention by a man who is an educationalist. >> if we want to dedicate the segment to education, let's do so. the problem with voucher programs, even in washington, d.c., we have to be cautious about the threat of privatizing our public school system. that's going in the wrong direction. for that so-called entitlement society, can we please put it in the context of the ways in which waelt is concentrated at the wealth. the ways in which the housing crisis caused by the 2% and different people who sort of truck in the world of finances destroyed the safety net in ways in which we have to give more food stamps, we have to give more support to folk because people are poor and inemployed because of the ways we have driven this economy which is a republican driven economy up to
Current
Dec 7, 2012 9:00am PST
to attack unions. he said the administration is intent on unionizing so union bosses will [ inaudible ] collective bargaining. he was willing -- is willing to cause, quote unquote serious obstructions in the economy. he was asked on fox news despite not raising the debt ceiling would cause serious problems, he said i'm willing to do that in order to get serious cuts to social security and medicare. bye-bye [ applause ] >> stephanie: senator lindsay graham. >> i met with jim demint this morning, and to say i was stunned is an understatement. he has always been a friend somebody i could count on. we have really enjoyed our time together. >> wait a minute go back. >> stephanie: once again, another stunned moment for me! vapors. >> we had some wonderful times together. >> something tells me that lindsay graham has clutched some pearls before. >> as god as my witness i will never go hungry again. >> compared to jim demint is a stark-raving mad liberal. >> stephanie: and senator harry reid. >> i have always liked the guy, and even though i disagree with so much of what
MSNBC
Dec 7, 2012 2:00am PST
that nonunion employees pay fees. it passed, despite protests from unions, and democrats call the law an attack on workers' rights. >>> in greece, violent confrontations between protesters and riot police. the demonstration was to mark the fourth anniversary of the deadly police shooting of a teenager that triggered major protests in 2008. >>> in bangladesh, an official says the fire that killed 112 people last month was in a garment factory that had lost its safety certification back in june. also, the factory owner was authorized to run a three-story business, but it was illegally expanded to eight stories, adding a ninth at the time of the late november blaze. >>> and at the smithsonian museum in washington, the world's largest cut stone is now on display. the aqua amarine gem is more than a foot tall and weighs over 5 pounds. it's called the dom pedro gem, named after brazil's first two emperors. >>> so, this morning we're going to find out how hard superstorm sandy slammed the economy with the government's november jobs report due out. economists fear sandy battered hiring with estimates o
FOX Business
Dec 6, 2012 6:00pm EST
to stall with questions and amendments, and as the senate debated legislation, 2500 union supporters tried to rush the chamber. some of the folks were bussed in. michigan state police used spray on them after people refused orders to stop. it's getting violence out there. eight people arrested. the governor said he'd sign the bill. we'll continue to follow the story. still to come, obamacare is bad for business, but it turns out, so is speaking out. i'll explain. the fiscal cliff aiming at the housing market. will the recovery disappear if we fall off the cliff? we'll get advice. stay tuned. ♪ now we need a little bit more... [ male announcer ] at humana, we understand the value of quality time and personal attention. ich is w we are prou to partner with health care professionals who understand the difference that quality time with our members can make... that's a very nice cake! ohh! [ giggles ] [ male announcer ] humana thanks the physicians, nurses, hospitals, pharmists and other health professionals who helped us achve the highest average star rating among national dicare companies..
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Dec 7, 2012 3:00pm PST
marriage as the legal union of one man and one woman. the court also announced it will decide where the california's proposition 8, which bans same-sex marriage, is constitutional. voters in california passed prop 8 four years ago but since then two courts have said it is unconstitutional. american's views on this issue have shifted rapidly, to where the majority of americans now support same-sex marriage. the cases will be heard in march. a ruling is expected in june. these decisions will have you judge for fairness in this country. one reporter described this case as the roe versus wade of gay rights. we have three special guests tonight. joining me now is richard, a former white house advicer to former president clinton and equality matters, a guy rights advocacy rights group. dustin, activist and award-winning screenwriter of the movie "milk." he's helped to lead the charge to overturn proposition 8. and jonathan capehart, opinion writer for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor. let me thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thanks, rev. >> richard, what does this me
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Dec 8, 2012 9:00am PST
of marriage act. it defines marriage as "only a legal union between one man and one woman." the law had a big effect on edie windsor of new york who married tea spire in 2007. when spire died the irs sent a tax bill for $300,000 because it did not consider them to be married. >> the injustice. i couldn't believe they were making a stranger of this person i lived with and loveded for 43 something years. >> under that law, same sex couples who are legally married are denied about 1,000 federal benefits that other married couples get. after first supporting the defense of marriage act, the obama administration concluded last year that it violates the constitution. >> we cannot defend the federal government poking its nose into what states are doing and putting the thumb on the scale against same sex companies. >> reporter: house republicans are now taking up the law's legal defense. supporters say it helps preserve traditional marriage. >> unions of two men and two women are not the same thing as a marriage between a man and a woman. only marriage between a man and a woman can connect children t
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Dec 6, 2012 6:00am PST
sections, an area where romney did well overall but saw his margin slip. union county, iowa. bush won by seven. obama here. dauphin county, pennsylvania. juneau county, wisconsin. another very white area obama flips it by seven points. so why did we see this shift in the political middle and should this be the real source of concern for republicans going forward? right now let's bring in the bhaen hind patchwork nation. he is at the desk. it was about the middle. there was this mythology that somehow mitt romney won the middle because he won independents. >> right. >> it is completely clear it goes not the case. >> i think that is why it is important to go into these communities we used because of the way i like to think of the middle is not just independents because it is self-described. i like talking about places because places are what they are. they can't describe themselves. the numbers describe them to you. these places are moderate places. >> one thing and you want to look at this more and you'd like to lay over some census data when you get into this. i want to go to the boom
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Dec 6, 2012 9:00am PST
and the right to unionize. the protests, organized bay group called fast-food forward, draw attention to low-wage jobs. according to the atlantic, borough of labor statistics estimate 7 out of 10 will be low wage fields. nationally, fast food workers earn $8.72 an hour, or a little more than $18,000 a year, according to the bls. to put that in perspective, poverty line for a family of four is over $23,000, according to the census bureau. contrary to popular belief the people working these jobs are not teenagers. they are people in their late 20s and early 30s, trying to support a family. joining the panel now, the director of the fast food forward campaign, jonathan weston. >> thanks for having me there we were saying this is the time to be having this conversation. >> definitely because of the arlgment in d.c. and the holiday season when we think about when we're in stores buying things and thinking about wages, pocketbooks, and the neediest. i want to talk about fooast foo forward. tell us about your efforts and how optimistic you are about affecting change among fast food workers. >> we'r
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Dec 6, 2012 1:00pm PST
.c. where it is legal, another five states allow civil unions. you can see them there. poll numbers show it's growing in acceptance as well. what's happened here? >> there has been a remarkable change in acceptance, and i think it's been sort of, you know -- >> but is it because those who have fought for this right have cast it as a civil right? >> i think that's definitely part of it, and pop culture is a big part of it. as, you know, seeing same-sex couples has become more normal, more mainstream. people are used to see it and more gay couples feel comfortable telling people around them this is who i am, this is my family. that really changes mores. there was already a huge generational gap but now we're seeing major shifts through all generations. for first time white catholics support -- a majority of white catholics support same-sex marriage. >> marco rubio was asked about his views on same-sex marriage. let me play you what he said. here he is. >> is homosexuality a sin? >> i can tell you what faith teaches and the faith teaches it is. as a policymaker, you know, i could just tell you
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Dec 6, 2012 5:00pm PST
mint is an outspoken opponent of labor unions and workers rights. >> i don't believe collective bargaining has any place in government. >> including at a federal level? >> including at the federal level. that's what elections are. collective bargaining. >> house democratic leader nancy pelosi pointed out jim demint was one of the ringleaders in voting down the u.n. treaty for people with disabilities this week. >> that was one of the saddest days, so anyone who was a party to that, well, i wish them well wherever they are going and hope that we can have more of our values represented there. >> it was demint and his tea party allies who pushed the country to the brink of default back in 2011. this is what demint told abc news about republicans who tried to strike a debt deal. >> what happens if -- what happens to republicans who go along with a debt ceiling increase? if they go along with the debt ceiling increase without a balanced budget amendment and the kind of stuff you're talking about? >> i think for the most part they're gone. it would be the most toxic vote we could take. >> demint's far r
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